Posts by Designer Stubble

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WT is lying about the actual publisher numbers

by JustHuman14 in

i left wt, 18 years ago.

never thought that i would have witness such a massive doctrinal and structure changes as well.

i find it hard to recognize that religion.. what i can tell, like all of ex jw's is that wt going down.. their corporate directors know it.

Designer Stubble

Publisher numbers are artificially kept higher than in the past. for example: Sick and Elderly publishers can report 15 minutes and are pressured to do so. Both parents can count 4 hours a months for family study, regardless if it happens or not...after all they take them to the hall, pray at mealtimes, etc.

Also, it be noted that the elders will generally put one hour on your report if you fail to hand it in. This way you do not become irregular/inactive that easy and they don’t have to explain to the CO when he visits. I have seen this on my own report.

Then the focus shifted from average to peak publishers.

So, at all levels there is some number fudging - individuals, parents, elders...and I am sure this continues going up the ladder. And as commented before, they lie about everything else, why not about the numbers.

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Commuter Bethelite video

by no-zombie in

for those who missed last weeks clam meeting, there was a video played that was amazing ... however not in good way.. we are all aware how thousands of full time bethelites world wide got the boot and put out onto the street.

some having giving most of their lives to the organization, but often with no real way to support themselves other than to depend on the generosity of others.

so when this video talked about how special it would be for those who could step up and become a commuter bethelite, it made me think how calculating the governing body must be.

Designer Stubble

Careful: heard this directly from a Dutch bethelite...not the conclusion, but that HQ had assigned McKinsey to review and that they analyzed what an in-house volunteer actually cost

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Commuter Bethelite video

by no-zombie in

for those who missed last weeks clam meeting, there was a video played that was amazing ... however not in good way.. we are all aware how thousands of full time bethelites world wide got the boot and put out onto the street.

some having giving most of their lives to the organization, but often with no real way to support themselves other than to depend on the generosity of others.

so when this video talked about how special it would be for those who could step up and become a commuter bethelite, it made me think how calculating the governing body must be.

Designer Stubble

Bethel hired McKinsey to review what efficiencies they could achieve. McKinsey analysed that all the costs of a volunteer added up to roughly $1000 a month (housing, clothing, heating, electricy, water, healthcare). Until then they saw volunteers as free. They then sent most home and now offer the ‘privilege’ of doing this all of nyour own dime. Really sick and twisted, loveless...At least in a ‘worldly’ company you get a severance package.

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1975—Were You Affected By What 1975 Was Supposed to Bring?

by minimus in

jw
friends

for years , we were told to wait until 1975!.

the end was coming and we better be ready—or else!.

were you around during this “momentous “ time??

Designer Stubble

Big time. After the untimely death of my father in 1969, my mother was lured by the resurrection hope and was told she would see her husband again within years. She was baptized within two years and shortely thereafter sold our house, we waved goodbye to the statue of liberty, to serve in another country. Well, nearly 50 years has passed...

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What immodest clothing have you got in trouble for wearing?

by Addison0998 in

i personally have a very distinct sense of style and fashion which many of the fellow jdubs frown upon.

recently, i was told by a few specially self righteous ones that i looked like a prostitute in a pair of white boots!

a pair of 3 inch heeled, just a little taller than the ankle boots, with skirt that came down to my knees and a black long sleeve shirt that came up to my collarbone.

Designer Stubble

My wife wore culottes (trousers-skirt). Very representative in the business setting. Came home late and decided not to change for the meeting, while she had a #3 talk. The school overseer after her talk counselled her. She objected. In the end, he said she could wear it to the hall, but not if she had a podium part.

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Do Any JW's Still Use/Trust the Reasoning Book?

by The Fall Guy in

under the heading last days, the introduction promises this:.

"the present wicked system of things, which extends worldwide, entered its last days in 1914, and some of the generation alive then will also be on hand to witness its complete end in the “great tribulation.”.

will the "slave" explain to their followers that such an invaluable "witnessing tool" is no longer to be used, or will they just revise it electronically to reflect "current truth?

Designer Stubble

Witnesses no longer reason from the scriptures anyway. When standing next to a cart, if any questions are asked, they point persons to jw.org.

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Donating Online

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

i have just heard that the local needs item next week in the uk is to be about a new arrangement for donating online.

details will be in the september announcements letter due out on sept 3rd.

speculate at will!.

Designer Stubble

This may actually blow up in their face. Contributing through the local congregation gives a measure of social control and pressure.

Now persons may simply say if asked “I give/gave online”...even if they don’t. Witnesses are not always that honest and many PIMO can use this too.

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Has Anyone Read Barbara Anderson's New Book?

by Room 215 in

barbara has written an autographical book detailing her experiences at brooklyn bethel : "barbara anderson uncensored - eyewitness to deceit" have any of you folks read it?.

Designer Stubble

Thanks for the tip, reading it now. So far a huge eye opener.

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Dutch government to discuss JW abuse issue Thursday 15 feb between 10.00 and 13.00 [live stream]

by Anders Andersen in

thursday 15 februari 2018, between 10.00 and 13.00, a committee of the dutch house of representatives will discuss jw child abuse issues during a public meeting.. for those who speak dutch, you can follow along:.

program: https://www.tweedekamer.nl/debat_en_vergadering/commissievergaderingen/details?id=2018a00016.

live stream (video): https://www.tweedekamer.nl/vergaderingen/livedebat/groen-van-prinstererzaal.

Designer Stubble

Thanks for sharing. Will be following closely.

Interesting quote from the document:

De Jehova’s Getuigen zijn opgeroepen om de door de RK Kerk genomen (preventie)maatregelen te bestuderen en waar mogelijk over te nemen.

Translated:

The JWs are advised to review the prevention measure adopted by the Roman Catholic Church and where possible to copy these.

So the Catholic Church in NL has taken more and better measured that the organization.

Curious to the outcome of the debate. Hope the summon the confidential documents.

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Leaked 2018 Elders Training Video RE: Elders Reviewing Pionieers

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhq5viughny&feature=youtu.be.

quite frankly im disturbed at the lack of love and compassion.

especially for the first sister they talk about!.

Designer Stubble

What a horrible pharisee video. Two of these three elders couldn't even find the time to read a letter and now they are judging those not quite hitting their hours. 50 hours and you should come off the list. One elder heard other elders gossiping on Br. Carpenter who should choose between LBC or pioneering. and how he dared taking a two week vacation, when he could have been knocking on not at home doors. What an unloving pharisee video. This is truly a works based organization, that doesn't care about its sheep. Their yolk is burdensome, not light.